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Brian Bogaert

Brian Bogaert is a Finance and Wealth Coach at Next Level Success (NLS) Coaching. With NLS Coaching, he helps realtors, business owners, dentists, consultants, couples, and high-earning individuals dramatically grow their net worth, retire unwanted debt, and reach their financial goals. After starting his career in the corporate world, Brian decided to make a change and began investing in real estate in 2004. Since then, he has achieved financial freedom and now works to help others do the same.

Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:

  • Brian Bogaert explains how he got out of the “Matrix” and started helping other people become financially free
  • The biggest myth about investing successfully
  • What keeps most people from improving their finances, and how can you overcome this obstacle?
  • Brian shares an exercise to help you transform your beliefs about money
  • How to take the first step toward improving your finances and building wealth
  • Why you shouldn’t invest based on the media and how to identify your own financial goals
  • Brian’s financial coaching process and his top investment advice

In this episode…

Many business owners and leaders are great at making money — but they don’t always succeed with keeping and investing that money. So, how can you start taking steps to grow your net worth and achieve financial freedom?

According to Brian Bogaert, the biggest obstacle to improving your finances isn’t a lack of information or resources, but instead a negative belief system about money. If you’ve been programmed to have a scarcity mindset rather than an abundance mindset, this may be holding you back from achieving your financial goals. Through his coaching, Brian helps entrepreneurs identify their emotional blockages about wealth, stop trading time for money, and become financially free.

In this episode of Growth to Freedom, Dan Kuschell sits down with Brian Bogaert, Finance and Wealth Coach at Next Level Success Coaching, to discuss the key steps for building wealth and achieving financial freedom. Brian explains how to transform your mindset around money, why it’s important to outline your long-term financial goals, and his tips for making smart investments.

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Episode Transcript

Dan Kuschell 0:03

Welcome to, the show that brings you inspiration, transformation and leadership, we’re helping you connect the dots, see the blind spots, and get unstuck. So you can go out and generate more leads, more sales, more profits. More importantly, so you can go out and have a bigger reach, a bigger impact and make a bigger contribution. Welcome to, the show that gives you inspiration, transformation, and customization to help you grow your business with a lot less stress. Let me ask you, Are you wondering, maybe quietly, maybe, in hiding? Oh, my gosh, what should I do? Right now in the market? What should I do? As far as investing? How can I make sure to safeguard my potential wealth? How do I make sure I don’t lose in the market? Well, guess what, if any of those questions are something you’re thinking about right now or feeling? First of all, it’s understandable. Number two, we have got one of the leading experts available today to share with you how you can do Smart Investing, what it takes to get started, how to be able to eliminate your risk, how to be able to overcome some of the fear, concern, overwhelm related to Smart Investing. Is that what you want? Well, if that is what you want, then tune in. If that’s not what you want, well, you might want to go find out or know, a Netflix series or something. I’m not sure. Our guest expert today. His name is Brian Bogaert. He’s a mentor, wealth coach and speaker that helps you overcome fear risk as on your investing, so you can be financially free, and quite possibly get yourself out of the rat race for good. So Brian, welcome. How are you my friend?

Brian Bogaert 1:49

I am doing fantastic. Dan, thanks very much for having me on. I’m super excited. As you know, entrepreneurs are one of my favorite groups to talk to because they’re great at making money. Not so necessarily good at keeping it and investing it after. So yeah, really excited to be here today.

Dan Kuschell 2:05

Awesome. Awesome. And we have Matt Johnson to thank for our connection and introduction a few months back. And Matt, that’s a shout out to you. And also if you want to hear the episode with Matt, go to Type in Episode search, Matt Johnson, you can hear our interview in conversation, which was a lot of fun, as well. So Brian, let’s let’s dive into it. So you’re a mentor, your wealth coach and speaker that helps people essentially with Smart Investing to look at getting financially free and get out of the rat race. So why are you doing what you’re doing today?

Brian Bogaert 2:37

Well, Dan, you know, going back quite a few years now, almost 20 years ago, I was I was smack dab in the middle of the rat race myself working in the corporate world. I like to say I got my matrix T shirt on today, I like to say I was living the matrix, right? So I was very much like Mr. Anderson from the matrix, I had a good life, a lot of people would want my life. But it just, it wasn’t satisfying. And so I took steps over the next few years to become Neo and get out of the matrix. But then, you know, I mean, the kind of investing that I do, I’m not a day trader, I’m not even in stocks and that sort of thing. And so I had time on my hands. And more and more people were saying to me, Brian, you need to show people what it is that you’re doing. You need to teach and mentor people what you’ve learned through all these investments, because people just don’t know this. And they’re not learning it from their banks and their advisors and in the media and that sort of thing. So about eight years ago, I thought, yeah, you know what it is, it is time to give back, which is a strong value of mine. And so I opened up my coaching business where now I show other people how to get in and out of the matrix. That’s That’s why I’ve become Morpheus. I’ve done the whole transformation through the matrix series. And now I show other people how to become free. And I mean,

Dan Kuschell 3:53

that’s amazing. Get out of the investing matrix. And get into your I mean, you have a choice. As you’re watching today, you can choose the blue pill, or you can get the red pill, which will you choose? Well, ideally, by the time we’re done, you’re going to choose the one that is right for you. So Brian, what are some, you know, you know, as you’ve been doing this and helping lots of people with their investing, and getting free from the day to day? What are some of the big mistakes or misunderstandings or myths, if you will that you see that most people have around investing?

Brian Bogaert 4:33

Well, I think probably the biggest one right away is just that people believing that they can hand over their financial freedom to somebody else, which is of course what the banks and advisers would love us to believe. Right? Oh, just just get on our website, answer three questions, and we’ll take care of everything for you. Well, this is a myth, right. The example I like to use is can you imagine Having a baby. And you know, when that baby was a couple of weeks old, you drove down the street to a daycare. And you said, Okay, here’s my son, he’s a couple of weeks old, please look after him, I’ll come back after 30 years, and hopefully he’ll be a good adult. Right? That seems ridiculous. But that’s exactly what people do with their savings and their retirement plan, they hand it off to somebody else who’s just an employee and isn’t any better off than they are. And then they cross their fingers that 2025 3035 years later, they’re going to be able to retire. So that’s one of the biggest myths, you know, whether it be your health, whether it be your finances, whether it be your business, at the end of the day, you’re the one that has to be the shepherd of your results and take responsibility. And a lot of people don’t want to hear that, you know, and it doesn’t have to be a full time job. But it is ultimately your responsibility.

Dan Kuschell 5:53

Yeah, and there’s a big difference, Brian, and I’ve heard you referenced this in different ways, but in a way that kind of connects for me is, you know, you can delegate something, and then you can abrogate something. Right? And abdicate is basically to, I think a degree of what you’re describing here, I’ll just handle it for me. Right? We see this in our business where people come in, and they want it we go in and as a fractional cmo and CEO team, and they just Oh, you do it? Well, you know, no, it’s a collaboration, right? It’s a collaboration and how we show up together, yeah, we’ll get it all done. But we gotta have the right Blueprint First, that also is based on you your values, what you want, the systems you want, the things you don’t want, and a whole lot more can just read someone’s mind right now to get it. So there is a personal responsibility, if I hear you, right, you’re kind of describing, you know, the idea of delegate, it is fine, but just don’t abdicate, they’ll go handle it for me, and I’ll check in with you once a month or something crazy like that.

Brian Bogaert 6:53

Absolutely. We just like in your business, there are opportunities for partnerships, I invest with people, I have groups where I’m not doing all of the work, I’m investing with them. But ultimately, like you said, then it’s still about my goals and my preferences and my results, because, you know, nobody’s gonna work as hard for my results as I am. And part of that is doing due diligence on the people that I’m going to partner with that I’m going to invest with, not just go to one little, you know, one little one hour meeting and get a glossy brochure and then hand them over, you know, a couple of $100,000. Right. So absolutely, we’re on the same page around this.

Dan Kuschell 7:33

And, you know, I’ve heard other interviews you’ve done, as well, Brian. And to me, it sounds like, you know, the surface level of this is this idea of abrogated versus delegated or hand over your freedom to someone else to run it for you. You allude to like a deeper issue, though, you know, and I would call that any emotional issue. Speak to that a little bit, the way you describe it.

Brian Bogaert 7:57

So Dan, yeah, this is this is such a fundamental piece for what I do in my coaching. So, you know, you remember the show, The Biggest Loser that was really popular, you know, but a decade or so ago? Yeah, watch, I watched a few of those episodes when it was on. And one of the things that really struck me was, it wasn’t about a lack of information, a lack of diets, a lack of exercise plans, that wasn’t what was keeping people overweight, or causing them to get overweight. In the beginning, it was all about emotional issues within themselves. And whether or not they had a mindset towards being healthy and the weight that they wanted to be. And I never forgot that. And when I got into, you know, doing money coaching and wealth coaching, I wondered I Is that the same thing that’s going on when it comes to money and finances. And having done this now for eight years with, you know, 1000s of people and talking to them about money and creating wealth, I can absolutely say yes, and the mindset piece is so gigantic. And I’ll tell you something, Dan, when I started this, I thought the biggest reason why people were struggling around money is because they had a lack of really good information and a lack of resources. But what I found out was, it’s actually not that it’s because of all the shame and the guilt and the pressure that they’re carrying around money and finances. There’s so many people out there that have the capacity and the intelligence and the wherewithal to start investing, but they never get started because of the guilt and shame that they’re holding. And that’s why for me, the mindset piece is always where I start with all the clients that I work with. And it’s not you know, it’s not huge. I’m not a therapist, right? But we’re at least going to address that and help uncover what might be going on in your mindset that’s keeping you in scarcity rather than leading you to wealth and abundance.

There are so many people out there that have the capacity, and the intelligence, and the wherewithal to start investing, but they never get started because of the guilt and shame that they're holding. - Brian Bogaert Click To Tweet

Dan Kuschell 9:48

So what can someone do you know that might be watching right now Brian? We’re listening right now who might be sound okay. I pick up what you’re laying down Brian us all Yeah. And you know, at night looking in the mirror and they go Yeah, I’ve got something blocking me from childhood trauma or you know, our family lived in poverty or scarcity or this or that. And I was kind of trained by my parents, and they recognise that or their grandparents and the depression and blah, blah, blah, all those sorts of things. What’s a step someone could take to, you know, release? guilt, shame, misunderstanding, in your mind, like, what’s a step? I know, you have many steps, but what’s like a step? Yeah,

Brian Bogaert 10:26

this is, this is an easy one, you talked about Netflix. So you know, this weekend, we got coming out instead of bingeing another four hours, and Netflix, they can do this exercise. And this is one of the exercise I do with new clients. So I asked people to sit down and write out what are your memories and experiences, and especially the things that stand out to do with money, finances, anything like that, and do it into three categories. So the first one is like childhood? So you know, that would be like 18? And below, right? Would teenager and a kid, what do you remember? What are the really poignant kind of experiences? And what was it like in your household around money? Was that something that your parents fought over? was? Did you get an allowance? Did you have to work your butt off and then not even get an allowance? What were your experiences around money, then do the same thing for sort of young adulthood? So about, you know, 17 to 25? And then do it again, as an adult? Okay, now, I’m over 25, what are my experiences around money, and just write this out, don’t don’t filter yourself, just sit down and do it in a quiet area by yourself. Sometimes, like tears start to flow, anger starts to come out when they really start to look back at their life. And what were the experiences and sadly, most people out there, did not get an abundance mindset as kids, right, I would say 90% of my clients got the work hard, save your money, don’t spend and one day it’s going to pay off. That was usually the mindset that everybody got as a kid, especially if they had conservative parents, okay. Or sometimes you get the ones where mom and dad went bankrupt several times over, they were total spendthrifts, you know, this up and down roller coaster. Anyway, as you go through that exercise, you’re gonna start to be able to look at, oh, no wonder I behave the way that I do around money and finances, look at the programming that I got. We’re not trying to blame anyone. It’s not about you know, making mum and dad, the bad guys, or aunts and uncles or the church or whatever, right? But it’s just about recognising what were some of those things. And then if you want to take it a step further, call up your brother or your sister or talk to your spouse, or somebody who knew you during those times, and review that with them and see what they remember about that sort of stuff. And what you’ll wind up getting there is sort of a blueprint that explains a lot of how you behave today. And you really want to look for patterns, because that’s the thing that you know, people start every new year, this year, I’m going to get rid of my dad and I’m going to get my savings up and I’m going to pull the trigger on my first investment. And november december rolls around, and nothing has happened. And that’s because of these emotional blockages. So that’s an exercise people can do by themselves and you know, solicit someone to help them who knows them really well. Least you’re gonna get a picture of what your mindset probably looks like.

Dan Kuschell 13:21

And that’s such I mean, such great advice. And as you’re watching or listening right now, I challenge you to write down what Brian shared with the animal, by the way, and come back to this episode of And you can also get the transcripts, get the notes, get the show notes, if you just cut touching this somewhere, type in Brian Bogaert in the episode list, search it so you can get access to the questions he just asked, right? Which are related to what were your memories around finances, money and wealth in your childhood, in your, you know, middle or middle aged young adulthood, and then your adulthood? And what are those beliefs surrounding it because here’s the here are the facts, your wealth will only reflect your identity. And what this will help you do is put a mirror to understand where you’ve been with your identity. And then here’s the beautiful thing for freedom. You can pivot it, you can shift it, you can transform it, if you want to break through be willing to break the old habit, the old way, the old way of thinking or maybe potentially an old identity. You know, he brought up the big loser you see this with people who get lean and ripped their identity shifts, right? They no longer you know, Tony Robbins is for years says you get what you tolerate. Well, if you get to a place where your identity, I don’t want to tolerate being x, whatever x is for you, it’s all relative to every person. So that’s why I didn’t fill it in and give you my version or Brian’s version. This is your version of your better self and today is the first day of your new self and the last day of your old self if well If you do the proverbial thing, and that’s take action, if you do nothing, guess what, you’ll get? Nothing, which is an identity issue too. But if you do take action, it begins. So Brian, let me ask you as it relates to, you know, the market and wealth and investing. And I know you’ve got all kinds of programmes, which we’ll talk about, in a few minutes how people can connect with you. Because of course, it’s not a magic button. It’s not a one size fits all. It’s, you know, there’s all kinds of layers of this. But what are a couple of strategies? So let’s say, we reshape our identity, to get a healthy viewpoint of investing, Smart Investing, right? What do we do now? Right, right, now we’ve got the market, you know, some would say it’s collapsing, some are predicting the next couple years is going to be pretty tough. What are a couple steps somebody can take in their investing model to prevent losses, as best as they can minimise risks, and most importantly, the fear or overwhelm around investing in the first place?

Brian Bogaert 16:03

Yeah, great question. So I’ll give you a couple of strategies around that. So the first thing that I want to say is, again, going back to mindset, it really starts with a commitment. Okay. So you know, there needs to be a commitment to as you were saying, Dan, and I could listen to you all day, it’s like you do this for a living or something, motivate people and show them how to break through. So you know, I made a commitment that I was going to become financially free, so I could leave the corporate world, right. And that became my, my guiding star, if you will, of what I was working towards. And all of my decisions from that point, I was able to ask myself, Is this going to take me closer to my goal of becoming free? Or is it going to take me further away? But I took the judgement out of it, there was no guilt, there was no shame, there was no you know, this is bad. This is wrong, that sort of thing. It was just a simple question, is this going to take me closer to that freedom, or further away. And so then I had a decision making process for everything that I was doing, because I’m not one of these people that believes that, oh, now you have to live like a college student, again, in order to make your dreams come true. And you can’t have any fun and you can’t have nice things. No, no, no, that’s, that’s, you know, I drive my dream car, I’m moving to an acreage out west, you know, I still believe in living now, as well. But that’s one of the first things is make that commitment. So a lot of the listeners out here, if if they’re working for a job, and then one of their paradigms is to trade time for money. And so a decision that they might make right here right now. And a commitment is, I am going to stop working time for money. And I am going to start to find a way to build wealth instead and leverage and that sort of thing. And this could apply to entrepreneurs as well, because there’s lots of entrepreneurs out there that have just traded a job for working for themselves. And they’re working more hours, longer hours for the worst boss in the world, because, you know, the perfection based right themselves. Okay, I’d like to say that entrepreneurship, you know, you, you may have just switched prisons, it’s got a nice foosball table and better wallpaper, but it’s still a prison at the end of the day. So if you’re working towards freedom, make that decision about stopping to swap time for money and look for different ways to leverage and build wealth when you’re sleeping, when you’re eating when you’re vacationing, all that sort of stuff.

If you're working toward freedom, make that decision to stop swapping time for money and look for different ways to leverage and build wealth when you're sleeping, when you're eating, and when you're vacationing. - Brian Bogaert Click To Tweet

Okay, so that’s one thing that people need to switch that paradigm, because a lot of people right now will be like, geez, maybe if I go get another job, or I get a raise at work now, that’s still in the same paradigm of trading time for money. Okay. The second thing that I want to say to people and this comes back to, you know, the markets and this was a big switch for me. There’s no such thing as a good market or a bad market. Okay, I promise you that in this so called, you know, oh, geez, now we’re in trouble. And maybe we’re going into a recession and the markets are crashing, there are people out there that are making money hand over fist in any market. All right. And that’s possible. For me that’s possible for you that’s that’s possible for the people watching and listening to this particular show. So that’s another thing you got to pull, stop, stop being a media watcher. The media’s job is to get your eyeballs and they know that fear works the best to get your eyeballs when COVID started. Initially up here in Canada, we had a dip in real estate in the first couple of months. But then after that, you month after month after month, real estate continued to set records and the price increases had been phenomenal. But if you go back and look at the media headlines for every one of those months, it was all negative. Oh, the sky is falling the bubble is about to burst. This can continue any day now. It’s all gonna crash that went on for like 20 months while real estate continued to set records month after month after month. Okay, so I promise you guys like Ray Dalio. Warren Buffett Tony Robbins, they’re not investing based on what they’re reading in the media right now, what they are investing in is based on their goals and their needs and what it is that they’re trying to accomplish. So here’s another exercise that that listeners can do. I want you to sit down and write out or type out your one, your five and your 10 year goals for yourself. Okay, so again, do it in three different categories like that. Start with your first year goals. Where do I want to be a year from now? What do I want to be driving? What do I want to be eating? Who do I want to be hanging out? With? What kind of place do I want to be living in? What kind of vacations do I want to go on? What kind of investments do I want to have pulled the trigger on? Okay, and then do the same thing for five years, and then the same thing for 10 years? That’s actually what should drive what you’re investing in? Not what some advisor tells you, or what you’re reading in the marketplace? Or what the price of Bitcoin is right now, or what have you. It’s actually based on your goals for the future. There’s no such thing as a good investment. It’s whether it’s a good investment for you.

There's no such thing as a good investment. It's whether it's a good investment for you. - Brian Bogaert Click To Tweet

Dan Kuschell 21:12

That is so good. Brian, that is so good. Now, as you’re watching or listening right. Now, here’s my question. What are you going to do with what Brian has shared with you? Number one, it’s related to your commitment and mindset. I encourage you take action with what he’s sharing with you, you know, is what you’re doing with your investment or wealth strategy? Are your money strategy moving you further away? Or moving you closer to your goals? Right. But here’s the other thing, if we put a blindfold on me right, now, spin me around and then say, hit that target? It’s going to be pretty hard, because I’m blindfolded. So are you also going to take action with the exercise of what is your one year, five year tenure? You know, and go deep? If it as deep as you can? This is for you. It’s your life? What are you going to do with it? Are you going to get creative and paint? Paint it in, you know, all kinds of decadent, rich, vivid colours? Or is it black and white? With like, one word answers, that choice is up to you. I would profess that my experience is those who get creative, who paint it in vivid colours, with rich, decadent, mentally, physically, socially, spiritually, emotionally, and financially and get that 360 view, or those that typically will have the greater results over time, right. And so I encourage you to take action. Now, Brian, you’ve got all kinds of resources, right to your point. Here’s the thing as you’re watching or listening right now, whether the market goes down, whether it goes up, there is a series of strategies that if you apply them will work in any market. One strategy won’t work in an up market, or a down market. The key is to find the strategy in that market that works. And then you apply it based on your goals, what you want, and so on. But here’s your opportunity. You can take the blinders off, you can take your the veil off, you don’t have to be hidden anymore. Yes. A lot for a lot of people finances or wealth building, or their strategies the wealthy use has been hidden. It’s hit. And now it’s hidden in plain sight because you’ve got a resource. So Brian, if people want to go deeper with you to learn more, check out your resources and such how do they get in touch with you? How do they connect with you?

Brian Bogaert 23:31

So I’m on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, you know, just search on my name, make sure you spell my last name, right? I’m sure we’ll have that in the show notes. People can always email me go on the website. I mean, the basic way that people engage with me is through coaching programmes. I do one on one coaching. I do group coaching, where I have some specific programmes that I do just launching one tomorrow on pre con condo investing. Another couple of months, we’ll be doing our next one on how to become an investor more of the sort of general kind of course, you know, I look at it as there’s the undergraduate degree and then we can start to get into the interesting master’s courses after that, like specifically in something like pre con, or crypto or something along those lines. So that’s the easiest way is just reach out. Connect with me on social media, which again, I’m sure we’ll have in in the show notes. Send me a question. Send me a story. If any of this resonates with you, I love hearing about people’s success story and you know, then I want to highlight again, taking action right and send me how you took action on what you learned on the show. I I Rich Dad Poor Dad was my Bible that I started with almost 20 years ago, but I’ve heard Kiyosaki say many times and I believe this, you know, millions of people have read Rich Dad, Poor Dad 1000s have actually done something with it. Right? So be one of those few 1000 that actually takes action that actually does something with This information, right that was the thing that was lost in like the secret and manifestation that if you just think about all this stuff, oh, it’s just gonna it’s gonna ring your doorbell. No, you got to go out and take action and that’s when it starts to show up. So I’m so glad you and I are on the same page around that.

Dan Kuschell 25:15

So I want to encourage you to take action right now if you want to connect with Brian learn more about how you can be a smart investor learn, you know smarter wealth strategies, investing strategies, look at how you can get rid of the baggage, eliminate fear, eliminate overwhelm minimise risk around your smart investing strategies, and quite possibly get free from the rat race. Then I want you to go to That’s Yes, the links are in the show notes. But you can go right now to Connect with Brian, you can also find them on Facebook, Brian Bogaert. That’s Bogaert. Again, all of this is in the notes as well. But you can take action now. Don’t wait, don’t hesitate. Those who hesitate, what do they say opportunities are never lost. They’re just passed on to someone else who’s taken action now. So that being the case, take action now. Go to Check out what Brian has available, and see where it takes it. You just never know you never know until you know, and what if it could be the solution you’re looking for, to make investing more. Instead of maybe it’s simplified it for you. Maybe it made it easier to understand as you get a feel from Brian, you can see he’s very simple and very easy to understand, you know, with all kinds of ways he described it. So go now That’s Now, beyond that action step, Brian. What are you know, as a result of our time together today? What action steps would you recommend our viewers or listeners take to get the most from our time today?

Brian Bogaert 27:00

Well, I think a big thing is, and you just talked about it, the feeling that most people have when they think about sitting down to talk about money or to look at their financial situation. I mean, we’re, as you and I talk right now taxes are due pretty soon. And the idea of most people sitting down and looking at their financial information to do taxes, they’ve pretty much rather do anything else in the world. But you can start to turn that around, you can start to make this an actual positive experience. They say the number one reason for divorce is financial reasons. Right? Are you talking to your partner, your spouse, your family about money and finances starting to share starting to open up starting to find out? You know, so many people after they have a conversation with me say, Oh, I feel so relieved. I thought you were going to tell me I was doing everything wrong. Right? And it’s It blows my mind how intimidating people are about money. So what I would ask people to do with coming away from this conversation is just be open to this idea. As you said it can be right it can be enjoyable. I have clients now that you know, once every two weeks, on a Sunday, they get a cup of coffee, and they sit down and start talking about their investment plan and their finances. And it’s a glorious, powerful, comfortable conversation that they have. And now they feel hopeful about the future rather than Oh no, it’s just a matter of time until the landslide comes down or the sky falls and crushes me right. I believe that if you aren’t actively working your plan for wealth and abundance, then you’re part of somebody else’s plan for their wealth and abundance.

If you aren't actively working on your plan for wealth and abundance, then you're part of somebody else's plan for their wealth and abundance. - Brian Bogaert Click To Tweet

Dan Kuschell 28:40

I don’t think we could say that any better. And if you want to get control, confidence certainty direction, you’ve gotten an opportunity. And you can go learn more right now go to, apply what we’ve shared, and come back to this episode at growth to You know, this just may be one of those segments where with a couple exercises that Brian is giving, you could set you free whether you work with him, or us or not. What a gift what a gift now, Brian, what’s something I should have asked you that we didn’t get a chance to cover? You know, in our time so far?

Brian Bogaert 29:18

Well, you know, it’s interesting, I bring this up because usually people they want to dive into the like, you know, what should I do around the mark tactics? Yeah, sort of stuff. Right. Yeah, exactly. Right. And as you can see, I’m much more than that. But I do love the tactics as well. Right. So, you know, let me talk about that for two seconds. Because right now you’re right. You know, the stock markets around the world are shuttering. We’re they’re reacting to different things in you know, wars and all that. But so, here’s something else that I want to share. I am not a stock investor. A lot of people are surprised to hear that when they they’ll start to ask me about stocks and bonds and mutual funds and EFTPS and all that and I say actually, I Don’t invest in those things I have invested in those things. I don’t anymore. And the reason for that is, through my own experience, I found that private investments, so things like real estate, private lending now, crypto over the last few years, I found that the returns were better. And I could mitigate the risk much more dramatically than I could in the traditional investments. And what I have now come to learn over the past couple of years, is these giant hedge funds. And these giant pension funds are doing exactly the same thing. If you go back 20 years, they were 80%, stocks and bonds, and maybe 10 or 20%, private investments. Now that ratio is more like 5050, and in some cases, even higher on the private investments. And when you ask these, these fund managers why they say exactly the same thing, the returns are better, the risk is less, why wouldn’t we go with these more private investments. So that’s something again, in the media and the status quo, all you’re gonna hear about is the stock market. What I show people how to do is to get into that private investing market to start to look at things like real estate, private lending, crypto, those are the those are the things that I are investing in. So I don’t really care what’s happening in the stock market on a day to day basis. It’s just not my cup of tea.

Dan Kuschell 31:19

That is that that is so good. So I want to encourage you again, if something that Brian has shared with you sparked your interest if you’re looking for a way to simplify investing, if you’re looking for a way to eliminate minimise fear, risk overwhelm related to your investing, looking for new strategies to safeguard yourself to protect, you know, put a moat around your castle for grades, right? So you can set yourself up to be financially free. And what would that be worth for you and your family, that peace of mind? Right that you have control that peace of mind to know that even if whether the market goes up or down, you’re still having the ability to grow amazing whether that be or to be able to set up your kids or to be able to set up your kids, his kids, his kids, like the wealthy do? Well, Brian’s got the tools to help support you to get you started on the right track the right path to do that. So go check out That’s And I’m curious, Brian, you brought up Robert Kiyosaki with Rich Dad Poor Dad, which has inspired a lot of us over the years, who’s a who’s been a mentor, favourite mentor coach that you’ve worked with, it’s helped you in your journey, doing this for as long as you have.

Brian Bogaert 32:38

So I’ve been incredibly blessed. And again, that’s why I like to talk about the matrix metaphor because I’ve had a few more faces in my life. Obviously, you know, big names like the Tony Robbins, the Robert Kiyosaki is and another fella by the name of Harv Eker, who I did some of his programmes and read some of his books and went to a lot of his webinars. So those were definitely some some of the sort of, you know, more popular mentors. But I had people who showed up in my life and you know, again, talk about the matrix, it turned out the guy I was sitting beside at work, whose name was Wade, you know, when I was in my last corporate job, he was the one who got me into this, he was investing in real estate. And when I found that out, we used to have a joke, when we would come to work on Monday, we’d say, Hey, how’s your tunnel out of prison coming? Like, you know, in the in the movies, where the prisoner is digging a tunnel with a spoon, right, and putting the dirt out in the yard every day. So we had a joke about how our tunnel was coming. And then I found out that waves tunnel was investing in real estate in Calgary where we both lived at the time. And so I joined forces with him, then, you know, and that’s how we both retired from our corporate jobs four years later. But then I’ve had other mentors as well, a realtor, a friend and an investment partner, Jesse here in Toronto, where I live now has been a huge mentor of mine. Other different groups I’ve been with, I have my crypto Queen colleague Kira that I work with now. She’s one of the ones who introduced me to crypto and now we’re doing master classes and stuff together. So I have truly been blessed by people who have shown up in my life when when I asked for those people and I took action. And those people were then able to guide me or I worked with them and you know, did their programmes and that sort of thing. And so now I you know, I’m I’m a lifelong learner. In that sense, I will always have those mentors and be part of mastermind groups and that sort of thing, because it just, it enriches my life. And it shows me the things that I don’t already know, because I don’t know everything.

Dan Kuschell 34:35

And I think that’s a great way to close this segment this episode, this new release. And here’s the facts as you’re watching or listening right now. And you just heard Brian in his own way describing his own world. Making money is a team sport. However, delegate it don’t necessarily abdicate it. Get control and Brian’s giving you access to some of the tools to get you on track. take the first steps to free yourself to help you overcome and minimise risk and eliminate fear and eliminate lack of certainty or uncertainty. Right and you can go learn more by going to That’s take action with everything Brian shared with you apply what he shared. Thanks for listening to this episode of Are you struggling to get a steady flow of new clients every day? Or maybe hit a plateau or hit a wall and growing your business? Well, let’s help you solve this problem today. Let’s review your business and have a conversation. Do that for free today at That’s In addition, if you’re looking for a simple way to implement some of what we’ve been talking about in today’s episode, I want to encourage you to get our free Small Business toolkit. You get that at That’s If you’d like access to the special resources and all the show notes for this special episode, make sure to visit

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